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Wine and More Wine A forum hosted by Jane to teach us about the finer things in life...

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Old 05-08-2005, 05:13
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Default Mallorcan wines

Hi all,

Wine always evokes a good discussion and its seems that Janes forum is the place to be!
I must say i agree with Janes sentiments about the choice of spanish wines but I still have a hot spot for the Rioja. I thought it would be nice to draw your attention to a bodega in the La Mancha region which came about as an amalgamation by 2 regional Co-operatives. Its name Bodegas Campos reales. In 1996 they introduced some revolutinary technology which gave them a reputation for great wine. Their location is in an area where the soil is Calcarour and argillacerous, The surface formation of sand clay and stone provides a tremendous base for water retention which is critical in the growth of the grapes. These guys are growing both white and red, on this occasion I am recommending a Cabernet Suavignon "Canforralas Reserva 1998 this is an easy drink of exceptional quality. They had a few bottles at the Dover for 13 euros Try it you will not be disappointed.
Jane i fully concur with your opinion of the Son Bordils Syrah only problem being a lack of consistancy between the years 96/97 being an example with seven a superior year. On a lighter note in response to Lady "P" well named it seems I would just like to assure you during my late nights out with spanish compatriates the liquid "lager" never passed my lips after the numerous bottles of red from Josephs cellar at Stay who would consider dumming down.Surprised to see your favourites obviously a Lady of excepitonal taste!Shame about your chest have you tried Gillette "the best a man can get"they do a good line in femminine razors not sure what cream you could use. Good to see Fedora man ie Steve posting again. What this man doesnt know about Majorcan White wine is not worth knowing, For those of you who dont know steve, he is also an expert on Mallorcan trees like a horse whisperer he chats away to them all the time.Debz my sympathy if you have tried the green stuff colour of fairy liqiuid tastes like domestos and works on your insides in a similar way.

Keep on drinking and posting.

Senor Ken
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Old 05-08-2005, 06:09
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Hi All

Just a few tips on what to look for when thinking about Spanish Wine Growing Regions
Spanish wine producing areas are divided into - Denominacion de Origen or D.O.s, For those more familiar with French wines the term Denominacion de Origen is in many regard similar the term Appellation Controlee. Becoming a D.O. is no easy matter.

In order for an area to be given D.O. status it must first establish that it has something different to offer from existing neighbouring D.O.s. First a region must establish that it has a differing microclimate, grape variety or production method which produces wines of distinct character.

Amongst other things the area must define its boundaries.

This will inevitably lead to spirited debate, as every grape grower in the surrounding area will claim that his land has the correct soil composition, climate & grape variety already growing on it. Claims will also be made by farmers not already in the wine industry applying for D.O. Status to be applied to their properties to increase the value of their otherwise utilised fields (with the possibility of an EU grant thrown in for converting to grape production!).

It must then define the types of wine for which it is applying D.O. Status for. This will include the variety of grape authorised, the percentages of each variety allowed in the case of blends (this prevents producers introducing higher yielding, but usually inferior varieties), and the types of wines which will be allowed, be it red or white still or sparkling.

Finally and probably most importantly, the area applying for D.O. Status most be able to prove that the wine produced by the local vineyards have achieved and maintained for several years a consistent quality level.

Of course, producers in existing DOS will also have their say about the creation of additional competition and will do their utmost to stop the expansion of existing DOS or the creation of new ones. Fortunately, there is an independent referee to sort this out.

The Instituto Nacional de Denominaciones (INDO) is the regulatory body which defines oversees and ensures that the quality standards are maintained by the wine producers in both new and existing D.O.s. The small label on the back of each bottle with Denominacian de Origen and serial number, which is distinctive to the vineyard where it was bottled, is your guarantee that the wine inside has met all the applicable requirements, minimum aging times and quality standards of that D.O.

All of that said, non-D.O. wines from Spain don't mean inferior quality. There is a new breed of wine maker not applying for D.O. Status or producing some of Spain's finest wines from grapes grown on non-D.O. land. Producing non-D.O. Wines allows the wine maker to experiment with different blends and production methods, bringing a modern twist to traditional wines.

Be they D.O. or non-D.O., our love of spanish wines will continue.

Senor Ken
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Old 05-08-2005, 17:05
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Wow! :eek Senor Ken!

Thank you very much for taking the time to post that message.

I had covered this area previously but the post was one of my messages hit by the hackers.

I then posted a brief message about "Explaining the Label" which appears further down the page.

Laws introduced in 2002 have added new classifications to the wine industry with the addition of the VCIG (quality wines with a geographical description) category which is one stage down from the DO.

And of course, there is the D.O.C.a to which your beloved Rioja belongs!

All of this ensures, of course, that the wine we drink is of the best quality so go forth and enjoy!

Jane
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Hi guys!

From the Map I picked up at the Tourist Office there are given websites for some of the Mallorcan wine producers. Not all have a website but I show below those who have and indicate with a T if they do tours and presumably tasting. This may be useful for those who are intersted in a tour.

www.miqueloliver.com Petra T

www.canmajoral.com Algaida T

www.vinsjaumedepuntiro.com Santa Maria del Cami T

www.maciabatle.com Santa Maria del Cami T

www.castellmiquel.es Alaro T

www.vinosferrer.com Binissalem T

www.vinsnadal.com Binissalem T

www.sonbordils.es Inca T

www.canvidalet.com Pollenca T

www.armeroiadrover.com Felanitx T

www.jaumemesquida.com Porreres T

www.vinsmiquelgelabert.com Manacor T

www.vinstonigelabert.com Manacor T

www.santa-catarina.com Andratx T

Just perfect for passing the time on a two week holiday.:lol

I have not given the cheese and sausage makers!

Have nice days and Salut!!:lol
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:43
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Thank you very much for that Porto!

I am interested in going to the Son Bordils Bodega as I love their wine very much.

Oh how I wish someone would export it to this country!

Regards
Jane
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Old 07-10-2005, 04:31
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Some of these do shut at unfortunate dates, i.e. ferrer wines in Binnisalem was not open for tours a couple of weeks ago and said they would not be again until November - why November?? It does seem to be a bit of a hit and miss game even with the big boys. We followed signs for a bodega in Binnesalem and finally found a small holding for a quick tasting. Lets just say - to travel is better than to arrive - and leave it at that! The experience was fun though, and thats what counts!!:rollin
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Old 07-10-2005, 04:43
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Hi Belladonna!

It might be that the vineyards are very busy at the moment with the grape harvest. It traditionally takes place between September and October so they may have been doing vital work!

If you go to any on your travels, as I have said before, please let us know!

Jane
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