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Hotels, Villas & Apartments in Pollensa & Cala San Vicente Discuss hotels, aparthotels, private villas, apartments and any other type of accommodation in the Pollensa area including Cala San Vicente. Do add reviews and comments for specific hotels and apartments. Readers find these very useful. However this forum is not a place for advertisements. Check out the 'Advertise' page on the main web site.

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They're all just staying in their friends apartments for free and buying them nice birthday presents on Amazon...
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https://majorcadailybulletin.com/com...t-numbers.html

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British tourism to Majorca fell by 8 per cent last month but alarm bells are not ringing at the Balearic ministry for tourism because overall the number of tourists passing through the airport rose by three per cent in May. A total of 1.1 million German tourists came to the island in May, a rise of four per cent but British tourism (659,000 tourists) fell by 7.8 per cent. There were big increases in tourism from France, Italy, Finland and Poland.

The overall picture should cause some concern, especially as regards the British market. ...
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Before we all get too gloomy, the passenger data for Palma Airport shows more people are still arriving (making allowance for when Easter falls). Now the question has to be, "Where are they all going?" Has anyone checked the caves recently?



.........2018............2017............2016

Jan......704,99..........642,413.........613,548
Feb......781,602.........720,486.........709,107
Mar......1,270,124.......1,107,698.......2,522,114
Apr......2,200,689.......2,228,171.......1,801,447
May......3,151,663.......3,037,128.......2,924,082
Or they're all stuck at Passport control in Palma Airport
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Official figures never tell the true story do they

Although the airport figures may look OK most will be staying in hotels and lots of all inclusive holidays and only the huge corporations that own the hotels will benefit and the staff that work in the hotels will be paid a minimum wage so the fat cats can make even more money.

A true representation of the situation would be to survey independent family owned businesses/small shops/ bars/restaurants to see if they are having an increase in profits or reduction of income.

It's not how many people that arrive through the airport that matters it is how much they spend and where they spend the money that keeps everything alive.

Looking forward to spending some money in our favourite local restaurants next week if the flight is not cancelled due to strikes....
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Just playing devils advocate for a moment.
I could have sworn the outcry was " Too many tourist in Mallorca"
Well, If you take the latest figures as Gospel, then their strategy to deal with it has been a failure.

What they need to do is crack down on private renting.
Oh, silly me. They did
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Official figures never tell the true story do they

Although the airport figures may look OK most will be staying in hotels and lots of all inclusive holidays and only the huge corporations that own the hotels will benefit and the staff that work in the hotels will be paid a minimum wage so the fat cats can make even more money.

A true representation of the situation would be to survey independent family owned businesses/small shops/ bars/restaurants to see if they are having an increase in profits or reduction of income.

It's not how many people that arrive through the airport that matters it is how much they spend and where they spend the money that keeps everything alive.

Looking forward to spending some money in our favourite local restaurants next week if the flight is not cancelled due to strikes....
Totally agree with this. If you take my holiday this year as an example. I normally go for 2 weeks but this yera we are only going for 1 week. The airport statistics for me going for 2 weeks or 1 week will be exactly the same. In truth, thats roughly half the spending that I normally put into businesses in Mallorca.
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Totally agree with this. If you take my holiday this year as an example. I normally go for 2 weeks but this yera we are only going for 1 week. The airport statistics for me going for 2 weeks or 1 week will be exactly the same. In truth, thats roughly half the spending that I normally put into businesses in Mallorca.
Thats a VERY good point.
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[QUOTE=Mark;123238]Official figures never tell the true story do they

Although the airport figures may look OK most will be staying in hotels and lots of all inclusive holidays and only the huge corporations that own the hotels will benefit and the staff that work in the hotels will be paid a minimum wage so the fat cats can make even more money.

A true representation of the situation would be to survey independent family owned businesses/small shops/ bars/restaurants to see if they are having an increase in profits or reduction of income.

It's not how many people that arrive through the airport that matters it is how much they spend and where they spend the money that keeps everything alive.
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Just proves the old saying " There are Lies, damned lies and statistics"
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Just playing devils advocate for a moment.
I could have sworn the outcry was " Too many tourist in Mallorca"
Well, If you take the latest figures as Gospel, then their strategy to deal with it has been a failure.

What they need to do is crack down on private renting.
Oh, silly me. They did
You've hit the nail on the head, crack down on private renting.
The government with the up to €40000 fines on non licenced property, has pushed everybody that rents in to register for a licence to rent, when this is completed the tax office will be looking for all licenced properties to produce yearly tax returns on rental income where in the past a large % of rental was never declared.
this is a slippery slope for the tax dodgers in the rental sector.
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Like most things in life Rebel this situation is far more complex. Across most of Mallorca the hotel lobby have driven the debate and they have been building more and larger hotels which clearly doesn't support reducing tourist numbers. Pollensa issues are different to almost everywhere else , for years they have deterred hotel expansion , it is what makes Pollensa special. Apartments are therefore crucial to maintain tourist numbers to support the local economy. Cracking down on private renting is counter productive, what is required is a sensible licensing regime that enables apartment owners who rent to make a return on their investment legally. This in turn will enable them to pay appropriate taxes legally. This has never been the case. If it's not resolved then Pollensa is in danger of going into a serious decline. The local economy will not be able to survive too many years of a 30 per cent reduction in visitors.
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Like most things in life Rebel this situation is far more complex. Across most of Mallorca the hotel lobby have driven the debate and they have been building more and larger hotels which clearly doesn't support reducing tourist numbers. Pollensa issues are different to almost everywhere else , for years they have deterred hotel expansion , it is what makes Pollensa special. Apartments are therefore crucial to maintain tourist numbers to support the local economy. Cracking down on private renting is counter productive, what is required is a sensible licensing regime that enables apartment owners who rent to make a return on their investment legally. This in turn will enable them to pay appropriate taxes legally. This has never been the case. If it's not resolved then Pollensa is in danger of going into a serious decline. The local economy will not be able to survive too many years of a 30 per cent reduction in visitors.
Bejesus, this man has nailed it.
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Like most things in life Rebel this situation is far more complex. Across most of Mallorca the hotel lobby have driven the debate and they have been building more and larger hotels which clearly doesn't support reducing tourist numbers. Pollensa issues are different to almost everywhere else , for years they have deterred hotel expansion , it is what makes Pollensa special. Apartments are therefore crucial to maintain tourist numbers to support the local economy. Cracking down on private renting is counter productive, what is required is a sensible licensing regime that enables apartment owners who rent to make a return on their investment legally. This in turn will enable them to pay appropriate taxes legally. This has never been the case. If it's not resolved then Pollensa is in danger of going into a serious decline. The local economy will not be able to survive too many years of a 30 per cent reduction in visitors.
The problem is that there will not be "sensible licensing". It will be too expensive to attain and too restrictive to acheive if the figures and requirements banded about are correct
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You've hit the nail on the head, crack down on private renting.
The government with the up to €40000 fines on non licenced property, has pushed everybody that rents in to register for a licence to rent, when this is completed the tax office will be looking for all licenced properties to produce yearly tax returns on rental income where in the past a large % of rental was never declared.
this is a slippery slope for the tax dodgers in the rental sector.


Oh dear, re my post, I was being sarcastic.
They just have.
That's what has caused the problem with accommodation.
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The problem is that there will not be "sensible licensing". It will be too expensive to attain and too restrictive to acheive if the figures and requirements banded about are correct
It's not expensive well not to begin with as when everything is registered they will have full control and as you said before the hotel mob will make sure it won't be cheap for the private rental sector.
our block has registered and cleared for rental in the port, now it's up to each apartment to register in there name, each bed will cost €35 ie. 3 double bed rooms €35 x €6 = €210 per year.
Again a start of things to come.
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It's not expensive well not to begin with as when everything is registered they will have full control and as you said before the hotel mob will make sure it won't be cheap for the private rental sector.
our block has registered and cleared for rental in the port, now it's up to each apartment to register in there name, each bed will cost €35 ie. 3 double bed rooms €35 x €6 = €210 per year.
Again a start of things to come.
Rebel - I would be interested to know how you apply and where the information on costs is as I may be interested in the future. The biggest problem I perceive is the cost of complying with the regulations e.g. seperate water meters for individual apartments.
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