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Hotels, Villas & Apartments in Pollensa & Cala San Vicente Discuss hotels, aparthotels, private villas, apartments and any other type of accommodation in the Pollensa area including Cala San Vicente. Do add reviews and comments for specific hotels and apartments. Readers find these very useful. However this forum is not a place for advertisements. Check out the 'Advertise' page on the main web site.

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Old 20-09-2017, 09:12
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I dont know whether or nor I am looking forward to our 2 weeks stay in the port next month. I enquired what the situation was in August immediately after the announcement of the new legislation and was told by the agent that there will be no problem (see earlier post). I've been in touch with the owner regarding key arrangements etc and she tells me that she has cancelled all the other rentals this year except ours because we had booked so early. But she has asked that if we are questioned by the neighbours/admin personnel to say that we are friends of the family and if we cannot agree to this, then she will have to cancel our rental - and at such short notice there is nothing we can do except agree to this. So I am now feeling very uncomfortable about the whole situation and hope that we do not meet with any hostility from the neighbours. Other problem is that the owner is foreign (not Spanish) and although I do speak a bit of schoolgirl 'language' and my husband doesnt speak a word of the language, I am now going to have to brush up. (I havent mentioned the nationality of the owner as I dont know who may be reading this - now just HOW paranoid is this!!)

As this will be a 'clandestine' rental we will have no backup in the port and if we have any problems we need to contact the owner - hundreds of miles away!

So this will sadly be our last stay in the port after nearly 25 years of October visits. We have a country villa booked for next summer but after that ............. who knows.
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Rosie 34 I'm exactly the same re next year. I contacted the owner who said don't worry I need to pay my mortgage. Keep it quiet and all will be well, I don't think so. I've priced hotels etc as there are only the 2 of us, way to expensive with meals, drinks,tax, flights etc, I really can't justify the money it would take. So for us it's somewhere else next year, just looking for a PP in a different country, probably impossible.
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But she has asked that if we are questioned by the neighbours/admin personnel to say that we are friends of the family and if we cannot agree to this, then she will have to cancel our rental - and at such short notice there is nothing we can do except agree to this. So I am now feeling very uncomfortable about the whole situation and hope that we do not meet with any hostility from the neighbours.
Remember that you have done nothing wrong so I wouldn't lie to anyone in a position of authority just because a property owner says so.

Not wanting to frighten anyone but best not to incriminate yourself just because someone tells you to lie.

Anyone that has been involved in court proceedings will know it is an absolute nightmare for all involved so best not get involved just to try to help someone you don't even know, it is only a holiday and no one needs this worry and stress.

Hopefully you wont be asked about it and if so think carefully before answering as it is not your problem, just be honest.

The rental situation is a nightmare
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A bit of a nightmare for owners and visitors!
we have been considering buying an apartment in PP and have been looking at various areas. I saw that there are new apartments being built in the boquer area I would assume that these would prime properties for holiday lets. A thought ... If "large holiday companies" buy some of these will they still be under the same laws or if they become "aparthotels"would this be different like habitat or Duva? It might therefore become very expensive as would be hotels. I have been looking t accommodation at the beginning of the year(March) and some hotels are already fully booked
All bit confusing and worrying.
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A bit of a nightmare for owners and visitors!
we have been considering buying an apartment in PP and have been looking at various areas. I saw that there are new apartments being built in the boquer area I would assume that these would prime properties for holiday lets. A thought ... If "large holiday companies" buy some of these will they still be under the same laws or if they become "aparthotels"would this be different like habitat or Duva? It might therefore become very expensive as would be hotels. I have been looking t accommodation at the beginning of the year(March) and some hotels are already fully booked
All bit confusing and worrying.
I have noticed that some of the habitat apartments have appeared for sale (with licence). I also noticed that the entire block of habitat apartments at the duva entrance (called them duvabitat, ran from the duva) is completely for sale! Very curious as to why they dont want them part of their aparthotels anymore!!!
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Any property which has a license be it apart hotels tourist apartments or villas are now sought after and will continue to be. Anyone thinking of purchasing would be wise to buy something with a license even if the intention is not to rent out. A propery on sale will always have much more value with the option of renting with the excellent returns renting can bring.
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Any property which has a license be it apart hotels tourist apartments or villas are now sought after and will continue to be. Anyone thinking of purchasing would be wise to buy something with a license even if the intention is not to rent out. A propery on sale will always have much more value with the option of renting with the excellent returns renting can bring.
Don't assume a property with a license will be ok as reading in the majorca bulletin this week the authorities are now revoking licenses on properties that hold a license when they feel they don't conform to the new rules that includes villas, apartments, etc.
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I would advise against assuming everything you read in the MDB is correct.It was only last week that it was reported that sun beds and bars were to be banned on the beaches! There are many who just like to continue a panic situation. If you read Jan Dexter's post on Facebook you will be aware she actually attended the meeting held in Palma yesterday with the tourism minister. Those already holding a license or have one in application prior to to the cut off of July 1st 2017 are not of interest or worry and the old rules apply. It is those who have attempted to lodge an application after July 1st and have the application in waiting until the new law and tourist areas have been approved who will be considered under the new rules. The last thing anyone would want is more panic in a delicate situation so it is important for facts to be put forward and nothing else.
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I would advise against assuming everything you read in the MDB is correct.It was only last week that it was reported that sun beds and bars were to be banned on the beaches! There are many who just like to continue a panic situation. If you read Jan Dexter's post on Facebook you will be aware she actually attended the meeting held in Palma yesterday with the tourism minister. Those already holding a license or have one in application prior to to the cut off of July 1st 2017 are not of interest or worry and the old rules apply. It is those who have attempted to lodge an application after July 1st and have the application in waiting until the new law and tourist areas have been approved who will be considered under the new rules. The last thing anyone would want is more panic in a delicate situation so it is important for facts to be put forward and nothing else.
I think you will find that the MDB reported that Mes, the minority socialist party had "proposed" that sun beds should be banned not that they are to be banned.With only a small number of seats it would be very unlikely to be adopted.
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Apologies - I left out the word proposed! The point being how ridiculous many a situation is at present in Mallorca and how delicate! How easy it might be to cause panic and for rumours to start. As I said on a previous post it is important to note facts. I went against this by admitting a word and putting a different emphasis on a situation.
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Hi All

I can see that everything that is happening/not happening in PP is so, so confusing for residents and tourists alike - not our fault, just local/national poiticians playing the game. So hard to understand their logic!!

But, can I ask that we, who all LOVE PP, otherwise we would not be members of this wonderful Forum, try to remain positive and support each other. I also am currently searching other places on the Internet for 2018, but just realized, that is a bit defeatist! So F**k it, I will not give in, and will do my best to find a solution.

I fully understand, for example, Pips and the other Lady who were asked to lie about their booking, if asked - I know I wouldn't do it!! I do not know how, but can we please all try to pull together to get the best result from this situation??

Regards and Good Luck to All

P.S. Pollensafan, the run is on October 11th - Maybe the money raised, from sponsorship, etc., will save the day!!!!!!
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Whilst you have to be careful what you read on Wiki, the following link gives a good indication as to why we are in the position we are now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo...s_constituency)

Basically until 2015 the People's Party had a clear majority with 19 of the 33 parliamentary seats and whilst talking about reform of the touristic rental market they did very little.

After the 2015 election it can be seen that there was a hung parliament with no party holding an overall majority however a number of left wing parties amalgamated under the Mes leadership and several more extreme parties, some who were anti capitalist, formed the new Podemos party.

It can be seen from the breakdown of the 33 seats in Parliament that these smaller parties wield enormous power.

Enter Airbnb which was the trigger for the latest extreme legislation. Until they emerged many families especially in Palma would subsidise their income by renting rooms out to seasonal workers on a bed and breakfast basis during the summer. Airbnb changed all that by opening up this market to short term touristic rentals so you cannot blame the home owners for taking advantage of the increased rates they could charge.

This of course became the focus of Mes and Podemos who were against the Massification of the island and who wanted to prevent seasonal workers being priced out of the market by over commercialisation.

Unfortunately, because the touristic rental of private apartments had never been really addressed, more owners were being fined for renting their properties so many sought to use the loophole in the law which in essence allowed all short term rentals to be classed as domestic under certain conditions. (I truth these rentals never offered accommodation to seasonal workers)

This situation was unacceptable for Mes and Podemos so they pushed for a complete ban on unlicensed rental until a solution could be found. The 30 day rule closed the domestic rental loophole and several other well documented conditions were introduced at the same time.

We await the solution which involves zoning and the issue of new licences to tourist accommodation that will conform to the strict conditions of the licence application. So we are now just sitting and waiting and hoping that this hung parliament can come to some sort of agreement that will allow sensible legislation to resolve the impasse.

Personally I think we are in for a long wait and many will have take some extreme pain until the new elections in 2019 which may define the future of the island.

It's a nice thought to call for us all to pull together but in reality we are standing outside the locked doors of parliament in the rain with no umbrella waiting for a few crumbs to be thrown our way. As non residents we are at the bottom the pecking order and can only hope that some of the big hitters in the business can challenge the latest legislation in the ECJ.

We live in hope.
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As someone who has been coming to PP every year for just over 30 years I cannot believe this situation. I appreciate that we should all try to remain positive but I am looking at a cruise for June which is our normal time for coming to PP.

I know it is defeatist but when looking forward to booking your holiday you do not want uncertainty as your holiday is supposed to be about relaxing not stressing that everything will turn out ok. If it was only two of us I would go to a hotel as we normally did but as we need an apartment for three of us it would be too expensive for this as an option .

If the situation changes then great but in the meantime people will be looking (just like us) for alternatives .I actually cant believe I am doing this but as we are now both retired I will of course keep hoping that the powers that be change their minds and we can then book for PP later in 2018.

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As I normally do mid Oct, start to plan for this years Pollenca area trip. Tried to find the apartment we have used for many years (to check availability) but it seems to have disappeared, so email to the owner to check. They have decided not to rent this year because of the law changes and advised me to be very careful taking rentals where you have to be "family". They are waiting the dust to settle and hopefully 2019 will bring a solution. They have been renting for many years and have knowledge of the market but will not take the risk.

I post this not to add to the woe but to pass on the advice I have received.

We normally do a week a the coast / port & week in a countryside villa, but looks like it will be 2 weeks now, going Sept (as we now can) to keep cost down. The villa has a licence but think this one of the few I have stayed at that has !

Hope this can be of some help.
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Bookings tumble and no rentals appeal: the week in Majorca

Rentals' hopes dashed
Hopes that the Madrid government, specifically Įlvaro Nadal, will come to the aid of owners of holiday rental accommodation appeared to have been dashed. The deadline for the national government lodging an appeal against the Balearic rentals legislation was 31 October. It passed, and no appeal had been made.

I have usually booked up for next years holiday in PP by now....with our direct flights to Palma released recently at £199 for my dates (and I had a £50.00 voucher to use!) looks like I won't be able to take advantage of a great price and regretfully have to miss it next year. Hotels/Aparthotels all seem pretty full now but like a lot of visitors, I prefer private apts. and was hoping Madrid would step in but hope is slowly disappearing after reading the above from MB.
Looking at Apartments for sale in PP yesterday and sad to see three that we have had great holidays in and many that I have inquired about over the years all up for sale.
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